Has anyone experienced the COVID Vaccine react negatively to your Arthritis condition??

约翰尼亚炎

最近，我刚刚进行了第二次辉瑞注射，以完成我的COVID-19疫苗接种。不幸的是，由于某些奇怪的原因，该疫苗决定针对我的“关节炎状况！”我的中后背，脚踝和脚经历了可怕的疼痛！（我关节炎状况的位置。）2天后它停止了。现在，没有步行者，我无法独自行走！这到底是怎么回事？？疫苗为什么要对我的关节炎状况和身体的身体来做到这一点？当然，这里的其他人患有“关节炎”，经历了与我相同的可怕经历？您能解释一下发生了什么，我应该担心吗？由于疫苗决定攻击我的关节炎区域，因此无法走路，这让我非常担心。 I feel strength ever so slowly coming back but this ridiculous! Again, I just need to hear from some of you others who have gone through this same experience. I have spoken to a Nurse and a Physician who stated that this is, indeed, unusual, but not uncommon. Are you kidding me? I would appreciate any suggestions for feedback on this specific situation. Thank You. Hope to hear from anyone soon..........JohnnyA.

汤姆

欢迎来到社区，@johnnyarthris。

我了解您对第二次辉瑞疫苗接种的不良反应感到担忧。

我建议您打电话给我们的Freephone热线器：0800 5200 520与我们的一支热线团队交谈。有了更好的理解，我认为他们应该能够为您提供更多量身定制的建议。

祝您好运，并让社区知道您的情况。

汤姆

stickywicket

任何使我们变得更糟的事情，甚至暂时都令人恐惧。不幸的是，一些事情会引发爆发。如果您查看下方的线程，您会看到一个或两个人觉得他们的疫苗（AZ或Phizer）引起了反应。很难弄清楚这些疫苗是否必然会很快带出来，这是否可能是真实的。我认为您唯一的安慰是，毫无疑问，Covid会触发更糟的。我希望事情能尽快改善。如果您进行推荐的练习，则应使您的康复更快。//www.wfysxh.com/about-arthritis/exercising-with-arthritis/Good luck.

Shayalex

我的病人表现出动力的改善。在接种疫苗并生病后，还有更多的副作用。该疾病对每个人的进行不同。

好奇的人

在疫苗之前，我根本没有症状，在疫苗后立即出现了很多症状，最终导致了我的关节炎诊断。我接受了AZ疫苗的第一次剂量，在这种经历之后将不再使用！它使我终生残障。很抱歉听到您对此也有不好的反应。我听到了许多类似的故事。

医疗保健专业人员非常防御和不屑一顾，所以我现在对他们不信任！

Arthuritis

@CuriousSquirrel@stickywicket@johnnyarthris

不幸的是，疫苗已成为一种政治化的咒语，而科学被政客和医务人员扔出了窗外。- 原因 - 政治家认为它背后的科学以及试图理解它的科学将使乔公共场所太复杂和混乱，如果他们不了解，他们会害怕。

但是，非常简短，它可以简化我可以做的

所有疫苗（COVID VAX均基于良好的科学）由两个部分组成，以供免疫系统识别出一点点昂贵的抗原（尖峰或其他病原体成分​​），并且作为其微小，几乎可以肯定会看到它免疫系统无威胁和 *忽略 *。

为了使免疫系统注意并看到这一点抗原，jab包含一种免疫刺激剂，会在注射部位引起局部炎症。这会导致您的免疫细胞赶到现场，将有问题的抗原碎片带回淋巴结，并发出警报以唤醒其余部队。或者想象一下，这是一个令人震惊的大黄蜂，它会生气并回到蜂巢上，释放化学信号以愤怒地散发蜂巢蜂群和嗡嗡声。

RA就像一个过度活跃的愤怒的群体，由MTX这样的免疫抑制器管理，但Vax Jab却相反，它刺激了它。

Now, flare ups caused by vaccines to long established RA sufferers is well known, all the Rheumatologists know this.

但是他们只建立了疫苗会引起爆发的知识，疫苗及其假定这些将下降或可以治疗。

There is little objective evidence, of the impact on early RA, ie there aren’t hundreds of well documented cases of early RA being accelerated & ratcheted up to chronic state.

只有在您患有非常早期/轻度关节炎时发生的事情可能已经足够温和到足以缓解的情况（在机会的治疗窗口内）可以迅速加速到更具侵略性疾病，从而缩小，从而缩小了，只有轶事观察到发生的轶事观察。治疗机会窗口。

但是，您已经将RA自身抗体在低水平上获得VAX，以加速现有的低水平疾病。

I feel this is what happened in my case, Jab 1 locked my jaw, but resolved later, jab 2 claw hands & swollen feet in morning, and jab 3 was fluVax which had me waking up with excruciating pain in my hand, shown up in ultrasound scans. Since then it has not let up. I have been Dx’d as having aggressive RA from nowhere.

当我问我的风湿病时说是的，这是一系列刺戳使我脱颖而出的，另一个人说他听说过耀斑，但没有听说过疫苗辅助（任何疫苗）的疾病水平。

我不知道我们当中有多少人悄悄地经历了这一点，但是我们需要一个集体的声音让NHS/MHRA知道这一需求调查。

For now,@CuriousSquirrel，我只能建议向黄牌/MHRA系统报告尽可能多的细节。这里的一个mod给了我一个链接。

MHRA确实阅读和跟进，并有非常相关的问题。

我的猜测是，就像失去嗅觉一样，NHS在成为媒体中的常识并更新其实践后将赶上它。

即使是如何给予疫苗，如果将疫苗注射到容器而不是肌肉中，也会引起问题。在过去，护士会在戳戳后“吸入”针，以确保其在肌肉中没有肌肉（没有血液被抽血）或在船上（抽血）。由于这种风险的发生率很低，因此做出了公共卫生的决定，放弃了这种安全的做法以节省30秒。

There should be a check prior to vaccines being given that you don’t have any inflammation already that would get triggered by the powerful immune stimulant in the vaccine.

请及时通知我们。

Arthuritis

@CuriousSquirrel@johnnyarthris@stickywicket

Here is the MHRA link

https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/

好奇的人

@CuriousSquirrel<\/a> @stickywicket<\/a>@johnnyarthritis<\/a> <\/p>

Unfortunately vaccines have become a politicised mantra, and science thrown out the window by politicians & medics gagged. - The reason - politicians think the science behind it, and trying to understand it, will be too complicated and confusing for joe public, who will run scared if they don’t understand. <\/p>

However, very briefly and it is as simplified as I can make <\/p>

ALL vaccines (covid vax is based on good science) consist of two parts, a tiny bit of expensive antigen (part of spike or other pathogen component) for the immune system to recognise, and as its tiny, it will almost certainly be seen by the immune system as no threat and *ignored*. <\/p>

To make the immune system pay attention & see this tiny bit of antigen, the jab contains an immune stimulant, which causes local inflammation at the injection site. This causes your immune cells to rush to the site, take pieces of the offending antigen back to the lymph nodes and raises the alarm to wake up the rest of the troops. Or picture this, an alarmed hornet that gets angry and goes back to the hive, releases chemo signals to have the hive swarm & buzz with anger.<\/p>

RA is like an over active angry swarm, managed by immune suppressors like MTX, but the vax jab does the opposite, it stimulates it.<\/p>

Now, flare ups caused by vaccines to long established RA sufferers is well known, all the Rheumatologists know this. <\/p>

But they only have established knowledge that vaccines can cause flare ups, and its assumed<\/em> these will come down or be treatable. <\/p>

There is little objective evidence, of the impact on early RA, ie there aren’t hundreds of well documented cases of early RA being accelerated & ratcheted up to chronic state.<\/p>

Only anecdotal observations available on what happens when you have very early stage\/mild arthritis that might have been mild enough to put into remission before it gets chronic (within the treatment window of opportunity), can get rapidly accelerated to a more aggressive disease, shrinking the treatment opportunity window. <\/p>

However you will have already got RA autoantibodies at low level for the vax to accelerate the pre-existing low level disease.<\/p>

I feel this is what happened in my case, Jab 1 locked my jaw, but resolved later, jab 2 claw hands & swollen feet in morning, and jab 3 was fluVax which had me waking up with excruciating pain in my hand, shown up in ultrasound scans. Since then it has not let up. I have been Dx’d as having aggressive RA from nowhere. <\/p>

When I asked my Rheumies about this one said yes it is possible the series of jabs put me over the edge, the other said he’d heard of flares but not heard of ratcheting up the disease level by vaccine adjuvant (any vaccine).<\/p>

I don’t know how many of us have quietly gone through this, but we need a collective voice to let the NHS\/MHRA know this needs investigation. <\/p>

For now, @CuriousSquirrel<\/a> , all I can suggest is reporting with as much detail as possible to the Yellow Card\/MHRA system. One of the mods here gave me a link to it.<\/p>

MHRA do read & follow up, with very relevant questions.<\/p>

My guess is, like the loss of sense of smell, the NHS will catch up after its become common knowledge in the media & then update their practice. <\/p>

Even how the vaccine is given can cause problems, if its injected into a vessel instead of muscle. In the old days nurses would “aspirate” the needle just after jabbing to make sure no its in muscle (no blood gets drawn back), or in a vessel (blood gets drawn back). As there is low incidence of this risk, a public health decision was made to abandon this safe practice to save 30seconds. <\/p>

There should be a check prior to vaccines being given that you don’t have any inflammation already that would get triggered by the powerful immune stimulant in the vaccine.<\/p>

<\/p>

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谢谢，这都是有用的信息。我确实在诊断之前报告了黄牌系统上的症状。

我担心，但是很多人告诉他们的风湿病学家这样的反应，如果他们说的话可以解释为对疫苗的远程批评，他们会失去工作，以至于他们将把头保持在沙滩上并完全否认。。我的一个亲密朋友住在同一个城镇，在接种疫苗之后就开发了雷纳德斯有趣的是，看看我的朋友是否也从未听说过这种事情发生。我敢打赌他们这样做。我也相信，如果我说我在获得症状后会出现症状，即使这很容易成为“巧合”，他们就不会那么不屑一顾和防御！

令人遗憾的是，这对我的心理健康造成了比疾病的任何其他方面更大的伤害 - 痛苦，NHS员工的总体无能，财务影响，错过的工作，错过的乐趣，对所有人的恐惧我将不再能够做的事情……与知道我无法再信任医学界的一个人的恐怖相比，所有这些都显得苍白，他们现在对我的健康负责。无论如何，我很快就有可能在医院拒绝治疗，因为拒绝了第二次残疾毒药！

我希望您的新症状像您先前的症状一样。我们所有人都处于多么可怕的状态！

好奇的人

Anything that makes us worse, even temporarily, is scary. Unfortunately, a few things can trigger a flare. If you look at threads below yours you'll see one or two people feel their vaccine (either AZ or Phizer) has caused a reaction. It's too difficult to work out whether or why that may be true as these vaccines were, necessarily, brought out very quickly. I think your only consolation is that covid would, undoubtedly, trigger an even worse one. I do hope things will improve soon. If you do the recommended exercises they should make your recovery quicker. \/\/www.wfysxh.com\/about-arthritis\/exercising-with-arthritis\/<\/a> Good luck.<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"Anything that makes us worse, even temporarily, is scary. Unfortunately, a few things can trigger a flare. If you look at threads below yours you'll see one or two people feel their vaccine (either AZ or Phizer) has caused a reaction. It's too difficult to work out whether or why that may be true as these vaccines were, necessarily, brought out very quickly. I think your only consolation is that covid would, undoubtedly, trigger an even worse one. I do hope things will improve soon. If you do the recommended exercises they should make your recovery quicker. \"},{\"attributes\":{\"link\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.wfysxh.com\\\/about-arthritis\\\/exercising-with-arthritis\\\/\"},\"insert\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.wfysxh.com\\\/about-arthritis\\\/exercising-with-arthritis\\\/\"},{\"insert\":\" Good luck.\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2021-09-02T11:07:03+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":15071,"name":"stickywicket","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/stickywicket","photoUrl":"https:\/\/w9.vanillicon.com\/v2\/9fdd062ad197cafded2e18137c05f5c8.svg","dateLastActive":"2022-05-24T14:39:38+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/684657#Comment_684657","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusurthritis.org/discussion/comment/684657#comment_684657

我试图安慰自己认为没有the vaccine I may have got covid and had the same reaction, but it's not much of a consolation. I know a lot of people who have had covid, pretty much 50/50 vaccinated and unvaccinated. They have suffered to various extents, not necessarily less so for having been vaccinated. However, nobody I know who had covid has had an autoimmune disease or lifelong disability as a result! However, I do have a close friend who also has a chronic condition now since the vaccine, and have heard accounts of very similar things from people I trust implicitly. I know this is all anecdotal, but the facts and figures being reported mean nothing to me when I know so many people like me are being ignored, our experiences do not factor into the equation.

I have been doing many recommended exercises and no improvement in symptoms from anything besides a steroid injection, which I can feel is starting to wear off now. Nobody I have spoken to has suggested that my symptoms will improve (though of course they deny the vaccine could have anything to do with it.) Seems I have been permanently damaged by this medical experiment. I hope for some others it is temporary!

Coral

我还怀疑戳刺使我陷入了慢性RA。我已经填写了MHRA报告，不知道这种生活的变化是否是永久性的。很难看医生等。

Yvonneh

你好@Coral

welcome to the Online Community, it’s great to meet you. I can see you have just been diagnosed with RA. Well done for filling in the MHRA report, hopefully your condition will be well controlled once your tablets are sorted.

这是我们有关RA的信息

//www.wfysxh.com/about-arthritis/conditions/rheumatoid-arthritis/

如果您开始在关节炎区生活中进行新的讨论，让我们知道您与诊断有关的任何问题，我敢肯定会有帮助

小心

Yvonne X

lisa_r

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I just recently had my 2nd Pfizer injection to complete my COVID-19 vaccination. Unfortunately, the vaccine, for some strange reason, decided to target my "Arthritis condition!" I experienced horrible throbbing pain in my mid-back and legs, ankles, and feet! (The location of my Arthritic condition.) It stopped after 2 days. Now, I cannot stand or walk on my own without a Walker! What the Hell is going on?? Why would the vaccine do that to my arthritis condition and to my physical body?? Surely, someone else here with "Arthritis" has experienced the same awful experience that I have? Can you explain what happened and should I be concerned? Not being able to walk because of what the vaccine decided to attack my arthritic area, has me greatly concerned. I feel strength ever so slowly coming back but this ridiculous! Again, I just need to hear from some of you others who have gone through this same experience. I have spoken to a Nurse and a Physician who stated that this is, indeed, unusual, but not uncommon. Are you kidding me? I would appreciate any suggestions for feedback on this specific situation. Thank You. Hope to hear from anyone soon..........JohnnyA.<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"I just recently had my 2nd Pfizer injection to complete my COVID-19 vaccination. Unfortunately, the vaccine, for some strange reason, decided to target my \\\"Arthritis condition!\\\" I experienced horrible throbbing pain in my mid-back and legs, ankles, and feet! (The location of my Arthritic condition.) It stopped after 2 days. Now, I cannot stand or walk on my own without a Walker! What the Hell is going on?? Why would the vaccine do that to my arthritis condition and to my physical body?? Surely, someone else here with \\\"Arthritis\\\" has experienced the same awful experience that I have? Can you explain what happened and should I be concerned? Not being able to walk because of what the vaccine decided to attack my arthritic area, has me greatly concerned. I feel strength ever so slowly coming back but this ridiculous! Again, I just need to hear from some of you others who have gone through this same experience. I have spoken to a Nurse and a Physician who stated that this is, indeed, unusual, but not uncommon. Are you kidding me? I would appreciate any suggestions for feedback on this specific situation. Thank You. Hope to hear from anyone soon..........JohnnyA.\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2021-09-02T08:33:18+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":118555,"name":"johnnyarthritis","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/johnnyarthritis","photoUrl":"https:\/\/wc.vanillicon.com\/v2\/c39b0039b40080117d3870d9ae325719.svg","dateLastActive":"2021-09-02T02:02:04+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":true,"showPostLink":true,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/55023\/has-anyone-experienced-the-covid-vaccine-react-negatively-to-your-arthritis-condition","embedType":"quote","name":"Has anyone experienced the COVID Vaccine react negatively to your Arthritis condition??"}"> https://community.versusarthritis.org/discussion/55023/has-anyone-experienced-the-covid-vaccine-react-negatively-to-your-arthritis-condition

嗨，我幸运的是，除了轻度发烧和身体疼痛2天之外，我没有遇到任何问题。但是，我妈妈的背部疼痛可怕，接种疫苗后她甚至无法正常站立。几周后，她恢复了健康。现在你身体怎么样了？您是否咨询过任何治疗方法？祝您早日康复。

狗

你好I have psoriatic arthritis I was diagnosed in mid 2018 when it crippled me and was on walking sticks for 3 months until I got treatment and got my methotrexate sorted which after another 6 months I noticed a big difference . Since then I have not had any serious flare ups until now I have had 3 jabs the last one being in October 2021 I noticed running upto Xmas I was getting flare ups in my hands and knees but could carry on working and put it down to the weather as I am a skilled worker . On January 11th I started having a severe flare up in most joints so had to go off work and I have been prescribed a low dose of steroid tablets from my rheumatologist as they will not administer a steroid jab to me they said because of covid still being highly present . I am now currently still off work 4 weeks on I did ask my rheumatologist about any links to vaccines and Arthritis flare ups and was told that yes they have seen some case being reported but there is no research at this moment being done to connect the two . I have not yet reported my flare up but will do so reading these post but I do feel it’s strange after over 2 years I have not had a severe flare up hopefully we can get some answers soon but it would be good to get all together who have had reactions or possibly reaction between vaccines and arthritis