辣椒素霜

jamieA · 16. Oct 2021, 11:12

我上个月与疼痛顾问进行了视频通话，她建议使用辣椒素霜作为减少止痛药摄入量的一种可能的方法。我已经使用了它大约四个星期 - 在我最糟糕的关节上 - 肩膀和左膝盖。我认为这有帮助 - 我减少了止痛药的摄入量，并且我的行走更加自由。我知道这也可能是由于我在7月开始的系统中在我的系统中堆积了Amgevita，但我会采取任何可用的选择。

在英国，奶油仅处方。

安娜 · 19. Oct 2021, 18:46

Hi@Jamiea,

Its good to hear that you feel capsaicin cream is helping to reduce your painkiller intake as well as helping you to walk more freely. You might be interested to read on the Versus Arthritis website about the research that has been done on this:

//www.wfysxh.com/about-athritis/complementary-and-anternative-treatments/types-of-complementary-treatments/capsaicin/

安娜( Mod)

jamieA · 16. Feb 2022, 13:31

只是对此进行一些更新。我肯定觉得这种面霜在过去四个月中有所帮助。那和Amgevita。实际上，我已经停止定期服用止痛药-Dihydrocodeine和paracetamol-现在仅在需要的时候。不幸的是，当我要求重复处方时，我的药房打电话说，经过一周的尝试，他们现在无法在任何地方采购。我进行了Google Dr.搜索，并提出了这个网站，该网站上有自制的辣椒素奶油食谱。我将尝试一下 - 我的橱柜里有3种成分。

https://www.arthritis-health.com/treatment/medications/capsaicin-cream-joint-pain

Henny_penny · 31. Mar 2022, 10:57

Hi Jamie, I'm interested in how you got on with the homemade capsaicin cream? It's just been recommended to me but supplies are an issue. Would love to hear if it worked out for you.

Ellen · 31. Mar 2022, 11:11

Hi@henny_pennywelcome to the online Community.

I see you have had capsaicin recommended to you, (prescribed by your Dr?) for your Arthritis.

我从您的帖子中读到，辣椒素的供应仍然是一个问题。当它帮助时，这真的很沮丧@Jamieaso much.

A quick internet search leads me to hope that capsaicin might be available in early April which is very soon. I hope you will both be able to locate supplies in the near future.

当您在这里时，我希望您能在网站上环顾四周。本文是关于替代疗法/治疗方法的，可能是感兴趣的吗？

//www.wfysxh.com/about-athritis/complementary-and-anternative-treatments/

Best wishes

艾伦。

jamieA · 31. Mar 2022, 11:23

Hi Jamie, I'm interested in how you got on with the homemade capsaicin cream? It's just been recommended to me but supplies are an issue. Would love to hear if it worked out for you.<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"Hi Jamie, I'm interested in how you got on with the homemade capsaicin cream? It's just been recommended to me but supplies are an issue. Would love to hear if it worked out for you.\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-03-31T10:57:26+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":121455,"name":"Henny_penny","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/Henny_penny","photoUrl":"https:\/\/w2.vanillicon.com\/v2\/2f64d02ae19217785fb5de6b7e7f1830.svg","dateLastActive":"2022-04-21T10:45:19+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693117#Comment_693117","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusarthritis.org/discussion/comment/693117#Comment_693117

Hi@henny_penny

是的，我的新风湿病学家在6周前给了我更高强度的处方，这是我的两次出色的辣椒素霜处方。

我认为房屋制造确实有效 - 尽管我将Cayenne从食谱级别提高了50％。它与辣椒素奶油的作用不同，因为它连续温暖，而辣椒素我只有在关节周围紧紧的东西时才能加热关节。我在肩关节上使用它，然后左膝盖。我在左膝盖上戴着一块tubigrip，因此可以从那里的辣椒素霜感到温暖。但是，直到我出去走路时，我没有感觉到任何东西，因为我在紧急情况下带着折叠的手杖折叠起来。背包的皮带紧贴着我的肩膀，使人们感到温暖。借助自制霜，我始终将其涂抹的区域温暖，直到它磨损为止。自制的缺点是它更油腻，当辣椒变成橙色时，它会弄脏您的衣服。这对我来说不是问题，因为我倾向于在衬衫下面穿深色T恤，但我的tubigigrips被弄脏了。我认为将其实际按摩到我的关节中的实际按摩对任何东西都有帮助。

I'm trying to find how to get white or clear chilli but have come up blank so far. Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

Henny_penny · 2. 2022年4月20:18

https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693117#Comment_693117<\/a><\/p>

Hi @Henny_penny<\/a> <\/p>

Yes I've two outstanding prescriptions for capsaicin cream as my new rheumatologist gave me a prescription for the higher strength 6 weeks ago. <\/p>

I think the home made does work - though I increased the cayenne by 50% from the recipe level. It works differently to capsaicin cream as there's a warmth to it continuously whereas the capsaicin I found only warmed the joint if I had something tight around the joint. I use it on my shoulder joints and left knee. I wear a tubigrip on my left knee and so could feel a warmth from the capsaicin cream there. However I didn't feel anything on my shoulders until I went out walking as I take a backpack with a fold up walking stick in case of emergencies. The straps of the backpack pressed against my shoulders caused a warmth to be felt. With the homemade cream there's a gentle warmth to the areas I apply it to at all times - until it wears off. The downside of the home made is it's more oily and as the cayenne turns it orange it can stain your clothes. It's not a problem for me as I tend to wear a dark t-shirt under my shirt but my tubigrips are stained. I think the actual physical massaging it into my joints helps as much as anything.<\/p>

I'm trying to find how to get white or clear chilli but have come up blank so far. Any suggestions gratefully accepted.<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/693117#Comment_693117\",\"attributes\":{\"link\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/693117#Comment_693117\"}},{\"insert\":\"\\n\"},{\"insert\":\"Hi \"},{\"insert\":{\"mention\":{\"name\":\"Henny_penny\",\"userID\":121455}}},{\"insert\":\" \\nYes I've two outstanding prescriptions for capsaicin cream as my new rheumatologist gave me a prescription for the higher strength 6 weeks ago. \\nI think the home made does work - though I increased the cayenne by 50% from the recipe level. It works differently to capsaicin cream as there's a warmth to it continuously whereas the capsaicin I found only warmed the joint if I had something tight around the joint. I use it on my shoulder joints and left knee. I wear a tubigrip on my left knee and so could feel a warmth from the capsaicin cream there. However I didn't feel anything on my shoulders until I went out walking as I take a backpack with a fold up walking stick in case of emergencies. The straps of the backpack pressed against my shoulders caused a warmth to be felt. With the homemade cream there's a gentle warmth to the areas I apply it to at all times - until it wears off. The downside of the home made is it's more oily and as the cayenne turns it orange it can stain your clothes. It's not a problem for me as I tend to wear a dark t-shirt under my shirt but my tubigrips are stained. I think the actual physical massaging it into my joints helps as much as anything.\\nI'm trying to find how to get white or clear chilli but have come up blank so far. Any suggestions gratefully accepted.\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-03-31T11:23:43+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":116922,"name":"jamieA","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/jamieA","photoUrl":"https:\/\/w3.vanillicon.com\/v2\/3589cb057d719443275bc889abf51573.svg","dateLastActive":"2022-10-16T15:23:27+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693122#Comment_693122","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusarthritis.org/discussion/comment/693122#Comment_693122

谢谢@jamiea。听到您的经历，尤其是发现Tubigigrip提供的额外层似乎有助于温暖，这是如此有趣。我一定会屈膝。同样很好，可以弄清楚染色！

不确定要握住白色或透明的辣椒。我会考虑一下。

Henny_penny · 2. Apr 2022, 20:20

Hi @Henny_penny<\/a> welcome to the online Community.<\/p>

I see you have had capsaicin recommended to you, (prescribed by your Dr?) for your Arthritis.<\/p>

I read from your post that supply of capsaicin is still an issue. This is really upsetting when it had helped @jamieA<\/a> so much.<\/p>

A quick internet search leads me to hope that capsaicin might be available in early April which is very soon. I hope you will both be able to locate supplies in the near future.<\/p>

While you are here though I hope you will have a look around the site. This article is about alternative therapies\/treatments and might be of interest?<\/p>

\/\/www.wfysxh.com\/about-arthritis\/complementary-and-alternative-treatments\/<\/a><\/p>

Best wishes<\/p>

Ellen.<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"Hi \"},{\"insert\":{\"mention\":{\"name\":\"Henny_penny\",\"userID\":121455}}},{\"insert\":\" welcome to the online Community.\\nI see you have had capsaicin recommended to you, (prescribed by your Dr?) for your Arthritis.\\nI read from your post that supply of capsaicin is still an issue. This is really upsetting when it had helped \"},{\"insert\":{\"mention\":{\"name\":\"jamieA\",\"userID\":116922}}},{\"insert\":\" so much.\\nA quick internet search leads me to hope that capsaicin might be available in early April which is very soon. I hope you will both be able to locate supplies in the near future.\\nWhile you are here though I hope you will have a look around the site. This article is about alternative therapies\\\/treatments and might be of interest?\\n\"},{\"insert\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.wfysxh.com\\\/about-arthritis\\\/complementary-and-alternative-treatments\\\/\",\"attributes\":{\"link\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.wfysxh.com\\\/about-arthritis\\\/complementary-and-alternative-treatments\\\/\"}},{\"insert\":\"\\n\"},{\"insert\":\"\\nBest wishes\\nEllen.\\n\\n\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-03-31T11:11:43+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":113173,"name":"Ellen","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/Ellen","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031919\/uploads\/userpics\/57PO2WXR7CB2\/n3HFWR1PJEL10.jpg","dateLastActive":"2022-10-11T11:25:35+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693120#Comment_693120","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusarthritis.org/discussion/comment/693120#Comment_693120

Thank you Ellen. I’m hoping you’re right about capsaicin supplies improving soon. Fingers crossed!

jamieA · 3. 2022年4月09：24

https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693120#Comment_693120<\/a><\/p>

Thank you Ellen. I’m hoping you’re right about capsaicin supplies improving soon. Fingers crossed!<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/693120#Comment_693120\",\"attributes\":{\"link\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/693120#Comment_693120\"}},{\"insert\":\"\\n\"},{\"insert\":\"Thank you Ellen. I’m hoping you’re right about capsaicin supplies improving soon. Fingers crossed!\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-04-02T20:20:08+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":121455,"name":"Henny_penny","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/Henny_penny","photoUrl":"https:\/\/w2.vanillicon.com\/v2\/2f64d02ae19217785fb5de6b7e7f1830.svg","dateLastActive":"2022-04-21T10:45:19+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693248#Comment_693248","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusurthritis.org/discussion/comment/693248#comment_693248

Hi@henny_penny

If you are desperate to get your hands on capsaicin cream there are sellers on a well known auction site but I'm a bit dubious of them as they are from a different manufacturer. There's also a cream called FlexiSEQ and if you search this site there are a number of posts about it.

Flexiseq is quite good pain relief, I have used it many times for my osteoarthritis.<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"Flexiseq is quite good pain relief, I have used it many times for my osteoarthritis. \\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-03-02T16:35:09+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":114424,"name":"Nickyc","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/Nickyc","photoUrl":"https:\/\/wb.vanillicon.com\/v2\/b86e87e344124727df8eb0af6edf444d.svg","dateLastActive":"2022-03-02T16:33:19+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/691452#Comment_691452","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusarthritis.org/discussion/comment/691452#Comment_691452

Also my GP prescribed me Ralvo plasters as the capsaicin isn't available. It has lidocaine in it so needs be used sparingly - only on one joint at a time and only for 12 hours per day.

https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/2469/pil#gref

jamieA · 23. Jun 2022, 11:44

Just an update to this. According to my local pharmacy the lower strength Zacin (0.025%) is still unavailable but they were able to source the higher strength cream Axsain (0.075%). It arrived Tuesday and I used it for the first time yesterday morning - following all the instructions. I only applied it once in the morning. This morning I woke at 03:30 with a really warm knee - and I mean really warm, like on fire. I think the closeness of pyjamas and covered by a duvet must have increased the function of the cream. So I've taken some of the cream and diluted it 2:1 with coconut oil to hopefully get back to the lower strength.

Susan69 · 25. 2022年6月，20：55

I bought some off ebay! ,,didn't know it was supposed to be prescription only! ..thought it was made from chilli peppers or something???

Susan69 · 25.2022年6月,21:00

https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693248#Comment_693248<\/a><\/p>

Hi @Henny_penny<\/a> <\/p>

If you are desperate to get your hands on capsaicin cream there are sellers on a well known auction site but I'm a bit dubious of them as they are from a different manufacturer. There's also a cream called FlexiSEQ and if you search this site there are a number of posts about it.<\/p>

https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/691452#Comment_691452<\/a><\/p>

Also my GP prescribed me Ralvo plasters as the capsaicin isn't available. It has lidocaine in it so needs be used sparingly - only on one joint at a time and only for 12 hours per day.<\/p>

https:\/\/www.medicines.org.uk\/emc\/product\/2469\/pil#gref<\/a><\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/693248#Comment_693248\",\"attributes\":{\"link\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/693248#Comment_693248\"}},{\"insert\":\"\\n\"},{\"insert\":\"Hi \"},{\"insert\":{\"mention\":{\"name\":\"Henny_penny\",\"userID\":121455}}},{\"insert\":\" \\nIf you are desperate to get your hands on capsaicin cream there are sellers on a well known auction site but I'm a bit dubious of them as they are from a different manufacturer. There's also a cream called FlexiSEQ and if you search this site there are a number of posts about it.\\n\"},{\"insert\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/691452#Comment_691452\",\"attributes\":{\"link\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/691452#Comment_691452\"}},{\"insert\":\"\\n\"},{\"insert\":\"Also my GP prescribed me Ralvo plasters as the capsaicin isn't available. It has lidocaine in it so needs be used sparingly - only on one joint at a time and only for 12 hours per day.\\n\"},{\"attributes\":{\"link\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.medicines.org.uk\\\/emc\\\/product\\\/2469\\\/pil#gref\"},\"insert\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.medicines.org.uk\\\/emc\\\/product\\\/2469\\\/pil#gref\"},{\"insert\":\"\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-04-03T09:24:24+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":116922,"name":"jamieA","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/jamieA","photoUrl":"https:\/\/w3.vanillicon.com\/v2\/3589cb057d719443275bc889abf51573.svg","dateLastActive":"2022-10-16T15:23:27+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693261#Comment_693261","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusarthritis.org/discussion/comment/693261#Comment_693261

Flexiseq是否包含布洛芬？...还是警告如果您对布洛芬过敏，请不要接受它？

jamieA · 26. 2022年6月，08：36

https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/693261#Comment_693261<\/a><\/p>

DoesFlexiSEQ contain Ibuprofen? ...or a warning to not take it if you have an allergy to Ibuprofen?<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/693261#Comment_693261\",\"attributes\":{\"link\":\"https:\\\/\\\/community.versusarthritis.org\\\/discussion\\\/comment\\\/693261#Comment_693261\"}},{\"insert\":\"\\n\"},{\"insert\":\"DoesFlexiSEQ contain Ibuprofen? ...or a warning to not take it if you have an allergy to Ibuprofen?\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-06-25T21:00:51+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":123217,"name":"Susan69","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/Susan69","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031919\/uploads\/userpics\/TPR5Q22BPPPG\/nC59HG10MYDTE.png","dateLastActive":"2022-07-01T13:30:44+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":true},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/696466#Comment_696466","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusarthritis.org/discussion/comment/696466#Comment_696466

Hi@Susan69

它doesn't contain Ibuprofen - there's no active drug in it according to NICE - it contains something called Sequessome vesicles.

https://www.nice.org.uk/advice/mib80/chapter/the-technology

jamieA · 26. Jun 2022, 08:51

I bought some off ebay! ,,didn't know it was supposed to be prescription only! ..thought it was made from chilli peppers or something???<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"I bought some off ebay! ,,didn't know it was supposed to be prescription only! ..thought it was made from chilli peppers or something??? \\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-06-25T20:55:02+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":123217,"name":"Susan69","url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/profile\/Susan69","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031919\/uploads\/userpics\/TPR5Q22BPPPG\/nC59HG10MYDTE.png","dateLastActive":"2022-07-01T13:30:44+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":true},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":false,"showPostLink":false,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.versusarthritis.org\/discussion\/comment\/696465#Comment_696465","embedType":"quote"}"> https://community.versusarthritis.org/discussion/comment/696465#Comment_696465

我的GP手术药剂师告诉我，如果在任何药物/乳霜的侧面有一个矩形盒子，其中包含字母POM，那就是只处方药。我当地药房提供给我的辣椒素奶油的两种优势都是由Cephalon公司制造的，盒子上有POM。