疫苗接种后无卷抗体

Rosiepup

你好, I have rheumatoid arthritis and am on methotrexate 25mg per week. I had my first vaccination jab (Astra Zeneca) over 3 weeks ago at the beginning of March. I am in the Biobank study group and I was offered a blood test to check for Covid antibodies. I did my test yesterday and it was negative for antibodies. I've read the responses to the question below from someone else on the same subject and I am very worried that this means the vaccine hasn't worked and I'm not protected against covid, particularly with lockdown easing and infection rates expected to increase. I have been searching this evening trying to find some guidance about this on the NHS website etc and there doesn't seem to be any. So far as I know I won't be offered another antibody test by Biobank so what should I do? Just assume I am not protected? I live on my own and have been very isolated for the last year and the thought of having to carry on like this when everyone else is able to start meeting up etc is very hard. Can anyone give me some advice on this? Thanks.

Ellen

你好@Rosiepup

I just wanted to quickly welcome you to the Online Community while you wait for a response from our Helpline Team.

Please do have a look on the forum you are not alone.

最好的祝愿

Ellen

helpline_team

Hi@Rosiepup

Thank you for posting on the helpline forum. I’m pleased to hear you have had your first COVID vaccination, but I’m sorry you are worried that your negative antibody test means that the vaccine hasn't worked.

对于患有自身免疫性疾病的人和免疫抑制剂药物患者而言，该病毒的不确定性和疫苗接种的有效性尤其具有挑战性。就目前而言，我们只能同情您对锁定的放松以及感染率增加的可能性的挫败感。

Based on the current available evidence, some people who are taking drugs that suppress the immune system may be given advice to continue avoiding exposure to COVID-19 after they have had the vaccination. This is because their medications could mean their immune system doesn't respond as strongly to the vaccine as people who don't take these drugs.

重要的是要记住，没有疫苗提供100％的保护。有时这是因为人体不会产生抗体和预期的疫苗，而有时这是因为，尽管人体会按预期产生抗体，但血液中的保护性抗体水平随着时间的推移而下降。这就是为什么英国的每个人都应遵循政府关于减少Covid-19的传播的建议，即使他们使用了疫苗。

多亏了像您这样的人，以及来自您参与的试验的数据，科学家们更多地了解了Covid-19的风险因素以及如何管理爆发以防止或治疗Covid-19。一项名为《八度研究》的新研究目前正在研究对免疫系统使其更容易受到Covid-19和其他感染的人的反应。这将有助于确保那些受感染风险更多的人获得最佳保护。我们预计，八度研究将在未来两到四个月内获得一些早期结果。您可以在下面阅读有关它的更多信息。

I have also provided a link to our COVID vaccine information pages on our website. Here we share the latest evidence-based information with our community, so please do keep checking for updates there.

同时，请考虑在我们的Freephone热线器上打电话给我们：08005200520。我们在这里为您提供支持。

I hope this is helpful.

最好的祝愿

Mags

Helpline Team

//www.wfysxh.com/covid-19-updates/vaccines-for-covid-19-your-questions-answered/

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/216393/covid-19-vaccine-response-patients-with-impaired/

Rosiepup

嗨，Mags，感谢您为如此彻底的回复带来麻烦。八度的研究听起来很有趣，很高兴知道正在研究这个问题。不幸的是，我发现发现该疫苗可能没有起作用，这非常令人沮丧。在过去的一年中，我一直在社会上孤立，有几周来我整周都没有见过或与一个人交谈，如果我必须无限期地继续这样做，我不知道该如何管理。通常，我喜欢去剧院和电影院，我期待在今年晚些时候再次做这些事情，感觉好像已经带走了一些正常的希望。我发现一些网站提供了私人的共证抗体测试，我认为如果我没有通过Biobank提供另一个测试，那么我将在接受第二次疫苗接种后获得私人测试并查看显示什么。

Thanks again for replying.

helpline_team

Hi@Rosiepup

You're so welcome. These are tough time! Please remember that the online community is here for you. I know we’re no substitute for the social interaction and normality you have missed out on over the last year, or for those trips to the cinema and theatre that you are so looking forward to. We’re hoping the Octave study and other data sets will provide lead to real changes to the ways the health of vulnerable groups is managed in future, so that you can enjoy life again.

您可能希望与GP或风湿病团队讨论有关抗体测试的想法。在这个阶段，我认为他们可能会说我们还不了解，但这可能会帮助您与他们讨论有关个人风险的决定。

您和其他人分享您对大流行的经历的诚实一直是并且仍然是至关重要的，这对于塑造我们真正改变的努力至关重要。beplay体育怎么下载与关节炎与英国风湿病学家协会（BSR），研究经理和管理人员协会（ARMA）和联合疫苗接种与免疫接种和免疫委员会（JCVI）紧密合作，以领先于我们的COVID-19资源，以提供我们的COVID-19在这些不确定的时间中，您需要的信息和支持。

Please reach out to us via the helpline Rosiepup. We’re here to offer a listening ear and can offer tailored support. I have pasted a few more links here that may be useful, but there are others we can suggest. Some of groups and services are running on-line at the moment and can be a good substitute for face to face activities until the normality you are hoping for returns.

//www.wfysxh.com/news/2021/march-2021/a-year-of-covid-19-supporting-each-other/

//www.wfysxh.com/news/2020/march/arthritis-and-coronavirus-looking-after-your-emotional-wellbeing/

//www.wfysxh.com/in-your-area/

我希望您能打电话给我们，祝您一切顺利，

Mags

Helpline Team

MMacG15

我真的非常同情。我已经和other conditions and through Biobank have been sh0wn to have no antibodies. This terrifies me and, because my problem is not officially recognised yet, I am still expected to go out and about as before. Like Rosieup, I feel abandoned. I have tried so hard to keep up with friends and family but this is not really a substitute for having a life. My daughter, being a hospital doctor, has to avoid contact whenever there is a spike in infections and, in Scotland, that is most of the time. Summer has been quite good since I ordered plants etc online and spent most of the time working in the garden but I do not look forward to a second long, boring and lonely winter. I frequently give myself a good talking to, which sometimes works but, other times not so great. Maybe we should start a telephone moaning group or something. Maybe just a "good ideas" site - when bored and lonely watch an old episode of Friends and eat chocolate, type thing. Good luck to all who have these problems. Although we are alone there are many of us in the same boat.

Ellen

Apologies@Rosiepup因为劫持只是想欢迎@MMacG15到在线社区。

It's lovely that your first post is supporting someone.

We do have a couple of things going on online to distract us and maybe make us feel a little better:

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\nYes, there will be payback but we can just take that for granted. No need to dwell on it <\/img>

\nMy first contribution - the other day we did a 'wheelchair walk' in which I walked far further than usual and, amazingly, without any payback. Nowhere near as impressive as DD's but it impressed me <\/img> and made me feel good about myself.

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和

Some of the posts on here are getting a bit heavy so I though a touch of levity was in order, please feel free to add jokes and cartoons to raise a few titters. <\/p>

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Also have you seen this thread?

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你是对我们中的许多人是刊物特色dually on our own by not need to feel it here.

请浏览在线社区，并在您想要的任何地方加入。

最好的祝愿

艾伦。

helpline_team

Hi@MMacG15

Thanks for your post to the Helpline. I do appreciate how difficult it is dealing with the gaps in the crucial information regarding vaccination and immunocompromised people.

在这篇相当最近的文章中，一些问题被提出了，并且有一些早期发现正在探讨。

研究对COVID-19疫苗的免疫反应：八度研究（versuslarthis.org）

One of the difficulties is still having to go away without all of the questions being fully answered.

在大流行期间，我们一直在处理不确定性和一些恐惧。了解保护自己和彼此的实际措施有所改善。面具，卫生，社会距离可以并且确实提供了保证。当然，令人沮丧的是，并非每个人都会了解那些感到脆弱的人的需求。在线联系仍在这里，也有真正的帮助。

如果您想谈论自己的感受，欢迎您在0800 5200 520与我们在这里与我们交谈。

All the best

Guy - Helpline team